We first saw deepfakes as humorous memes, then as celebrity likenesses selling tacky products. But the deepfake of the president last month calling on the armed forces to take action against a foreign country demonstrated AI-driven deepfakes’ potential for real danger.

Deepfakes have been defined as video or audio manipulated with the help of AI to create hoaxes. But they’re now also considered an advanced form of disinformation with often malicious intent.

Our podcast guest Jeffrey Dy is the government’s undersecretary for Information and Communications Technology. He describes the rapid response of the government to the deepfake president’s order to the military. He also talks about hacking attacks on government that were traced to China, although not necessarily its government.

He says that the country will need 300,000 cybersecurity professionals to handle the wave of deepfakes and other cyber threats on the horizon.

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